Tuesday, April 19, 2011

Armory Issue Needs Open Discussion

Let us retrace how the Armory issue was raised: A person who launched a primary campaign but then did not file to run brings up the Armory issue in public comment near the end of a regular City Council meeting. The mayor adds some details. A councilwoman attempts to clarify some points. The mayor adds a pitch for city acquisition of the building and indicates a deadline for action. Other council members raise questions.

What is the public or even a blogger to make of all this regarding a building that has been discussed over the years for use as a senior center or a youth center, now as a charter school?

Now Assemblyman Green, in a blog post which I did not see until after midnight, adds more details while chiding Councilwoman Williams and incidentally maligning her and her profession.

Green makes two points on his blog:
"1. The city is not going to be on the hook. 2. The city is not going to be financially responsible because the city has made its mind up that it is not going to support the children of Plainfield by not supporting a project that will help the children. "

The first one is clearcut, the second not so much or maybe not at all. "The city has made up its mind" suggests some sort of decision by the administration, although the triple negative clouds the meaning of this sentence. The governing body evidently has not made up its mind, because no action has come before the council in public session for a vote.

This situation reminds Plaintalker of the showcasing of a certain developer in the context of the mayor's first 100-day speech or the attempted frog-march conducted in connection with the East Third/Richmond proposal, featuring an emergency Saturday Planning Board meeting. In both of those cases, there proved to be reasons why marrying these developers in haste would have resulted in repentance at leisure.

Drumming up yet another Armory proposal in the way it was done on April 11 is unfair to the public and probably even to the entity that is trying to make its case, whatever that may be, for use of the Armory.

Green concludes: "It is obvious that Rebecca did not speak to anyone and she is clueless. The two parties involved – the developer and the State, make it very clear that there are ongoing discussions and the city is not involved. " So why the show of pressure on the council on April 11?

If Green is correct, there is nothing really to discuss about the Armory at a future council meeting. If the mayor has another viewpoint, may we please have more facts?

The next agenda-fixing session is 7:30 p.m. May 2 in City Hall Library. The regular meeting is 8 p.m. on May 9 in Municipal Court. The June agenda fixing session is Tuesday, June 14 and the regular meeting is June 20.

--Bernice

12 comments:

  1. So, in a nutshell...Jerry Green is commenting about Rebecca not acting on something that couldn't be acted on, can't be acted on and will never require her to act...
    Dementia ???

    Senior Center / Free / Mayor Sharon

    --- Unless one of the above 3 is incorrect, how could we go wrong???

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  2. Pat Turner KavanaughApril 19, 2011 at 7:02 AM

    Bernice: what happened to the Chinese herb processing plant, which would employ 250 people, and also have a tea room? Makes more sense than anything else I've heard.

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  3. I will be responding to Assemblyman Green's assertions regarding the armory on my own blog, Bernice--there seems to be a disconnect between what he has said and what the mayor is attempting to do. I only responded with information that was already made public by the mayor--perhaps she ought to talk to the assemblyman. Also, I guess Jerry has joined the "attack the teachers" brigade.

    Rebecca

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  4. Jerry Green can't even spell "armory" yet have a detailed fiscally responsible plan!

    Check his April 18 blog post "Please check your facts regarding the Amory"

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  5. Although my comment is not directly related to this blog post, I'll take the chance on having it posted since Mr. Green won't post comments to his blog.

    I'm glad that someone mentioned the fact that Jerry Green can't spell and has the grammar skills of a 2nd grader, indicative of Plainfield's failed school system.

    This man is indicative of what's wrong with this city.

    If this man were in a private sector job or perhaps representing a different municipality, chances are he would not have a job. I would guess to say that in 99% of companies, top level executives would have been relieved of their duties if they did not know how to properly spell and/or adequately use grammar in communication. He would have been fired!

    This man does not have any business representing our city.

    Can we please retire this man! Give him his pension, throw him a party and hope that he goes far, far away.

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  6. As we can see, the fog brigade that trys to push things through is at work. Make the facts and clouded and unfactual as possible and then throw in the children of Plainfield into the mix. No one believes the lies the NJEA tells when they say, "It's for the children" and neither do we believe Jerry when he says it. These politicians are self-serving and not serving the public. Too bad for us, unless we vote them out.

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  7. Pat Turner KavanaughApril 19, 2011 at 3:26 PM

    Dear Keeping It Real: Jerry Green did not go to school in Plainfield. At the time he would have been in school, he would have learned grammar and spelling, and we could diagram sentences, too. I went to Irving, Clinton, Jefferson, Hubbard and PHS. My grammar is splendid.

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  8. The main question is that if the deal goes through as planned, how much will be Jerry's cut?

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  9. Keeping it Real....I really don't believe Jerry would have the skills needed to write a blog or your average paragraph. Has to be one of his minion doing the work for him.

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  10. OMG, please stick to discussing policies and stop attacking others for their spelling ability. Talk about elitism! In the private sector Jerry would be judged by the results he got, i.e. how much he made for the company, not his grammatical ability.

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  11. I am unsure about why the assemblyman has decided to attack me on this issue when all I was attempting to do was provide clarification on Bernice's blog post about the armory. He basically reiterated what I said about the armory project--that the council didn't express any interest.

    Therefore, I was as puzzled as anyone else when the mayor oddly resurrected at the last council meeting what I thought was a dead issue.

    Also, no FORMAL proposal has been brought forward to the council--just a brief overview by the charter-school building execs at READS. If the state is dealing with others on this, why is the mayor bringing it up at council meetings, and why is a private citizen like Mr. Rucker suggesting some sort of urgency on a project that his benefactor, Mr. Green himself, has said is a non-issue for the council?

    Rebecca

    Sorry for possibly cross-posting, Bernice--I think my original comment got lost.

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  12. Re: Pat Turner Kavanaugh - you misunderstood my comment. It was a metaphor. I did not mean to imply that Mr. Green attended the Plainfield school system; rather metaphorically, he is represetnative of Plainfield's current failed school system - - a system in which the children are not adequately educated with the skills they need to compete in today's higher educational system and/or workforce.

    and 5:27 - - I partially agree with you -- sadly, sometimes it really is all about money; but I still believe that Jerry's ability to read in write is relevant to anything he does, because if he can't even manage to excel in the most basic of skills, why is he representing our city?

    To your point, it's not about skills, it's about his ease with hustling and scamming everyone, including his neighbors.

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